City Council Public Hearing · City of Nowthen public records

Agenda spine

2 items as recorded in the packet and minutes.

A1Ebony & Garnet Streets road improvement public hearing
Public road improvement hearing for Ebony & Garnet Streets between 185th Ave and 189th Ave.
Public hearing was held and closed; these minutes do not record an order for the improvement or award of a contract.
- Ebony & Garnet Streets road improvement
Discussion only
p. 1p. 5
A2Rogers Lake Area road improvement public hearing
Public road improvement hearing for 183rd Lane, 184th Ave, 185th Lane, Salish Circle, Ventre Street, and small portions of Waco St and Yakima St in the Rogers Lake Area.
Public hearing was held and closed; these minutes do not record an order for the improvement or award of a contract.
- Rogers Lake Area road improvement
Discussion only
p. 1p. 2

Issues addressed

What this meeting did about specific topics, organized by issue rather than by document.

Ebony & Garnet Streets road improvement
The Council held a public improvement hearing on the proposed 2021 reconstruction of Ebony and Garnet Streets between 185th Ave and 189th Ave. Engineer Shane Nelson described reclaiming the existing bituminous surface, adding aggregate and new pavement, addressing subgrade and drainage problems, and assessing 50 percent of the estimated pavement replacement cost to 20 benefitting properties. Residents asked about the certainty of the design, past road failures, driveway grades, garbage-truck wear, drainage ditches, mailboxes, timing, and warranties. The City Attorney reminded residents that the point of no return would come later, when a contract is awarded. The only vote recorded at this hearing was to close the public hearing.
Agenda: A1. Motions: M1. Speakers: Mayor Pilon, Councilmember Breyen, Councilmember Rainville, Shane Nelson, Bob Ruppe, Mark Palm, Bill Casey, Kelly Casey, Mark Palmer, Pat Gegan, Chris Meyer.
Rogers Lake Area road improvement
The Council held a public improvement hearing on the proposed 2021 Rogers Lake Area road project covering 183rd Lane, 184th Ave, 185th Lane, Salish Circle, Ventre Street, and small portions of Waco Street and Yakima Street. Engineer Shane Nelson described reclaiming existing pavement, replacing road culverts, paving to 3 1/2 inches, matching driveways, and keeping the existing 20-foot road width. The estimates presented included a total project cost, a separate 185th Lane gravel-to-pavement upgrade cost, and proposed per-unit assessments. Residents asked about the assessment amount, bid process, lowest-bid requirements, whether homeowners would vote, city versus county funding, and why taxes cover only part of road reconstruction. The only vote recorded at this hearing was to close the public hearing.
Agenda: A2. Motions: M2. Speakers: Mayor Pilon, Councilmember Rainville, Councilmember Blake, Shane Nelson, Bob Ruppe, Lori Streich, Todd Harbrick, Kevin Erickson, Deborah Anderson, Robinson & Diane Scott.

Motions and votes

2 motions on the record. Split votes are highlighted.

M1Motion by Breyen to close the Public Hearing; 2nd by Rainville.
moved by Breyen, seconded by Rainville
Passed
- YMayor Pilon
- YCouncilmember Blake
- YCouncilmember Breyen
- YCouncilmember Greenberg
- YCouncilmember Rainville
p. 1p. 5
M2Motion by Rainville to close the Public Hearing; 2nd by Blake.
moved by Rainville, seconded by Blake
Passed
- YMayor Pilon
- YCouncilmember Blake
- YCouncilmember Breyen
- YCouncilmember Greenberg
- YCouncilmember Rainville
p. 1p. 2

Money discussed

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F1
Total estimated cost for the Ebony & Garnet Streets road improvement project, including proposed city-paid culvert replacements, subbase work, and additional aggregate base.
estimate · Ebony & Garnet Streets total estimated project cost · FY 2021
$447,500
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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F2
Estimated pavement replacement cost for the Ebony & Garnet Streets project, proposed to be split 50 percent to benefitting properties.
estimate · Ebony & Garnet Streets pavement replacement costs · FY 2021
$288,000
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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F3
Proposed per-unit assessment to benefitting properties for the Ebony & Garnet Streets pavement replacement portion of the project.
assessment · Ebony & Garnet Streets proposed assessment per unit · FY 2021
$7,400
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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F4
Total estimated cost for the Rogers Lake Area road improvement project.
estimate · Rogers Lake Area total estimated project cost · FY 2021
$848,150
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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F5
Estimated cost to upgrade 185th Lane from gravel to pavement as part of the Rogers Lake Area project.
estimate · 185th Lane pavement upgrade · FY 2021
$32,000
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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F6
Estimated per-unit assessment for the two 185th Lane properties for upgrading from gravel to pavement.
assessment · 185th Lane proposed assessment per unit · FY 2021
$8,000
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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F7
Estimated per-unit assessment for the remaining 52 properties in the Rogers Lake Area project.
assessment · Rogers Lake Area proposed assessment per unit · FY 2021
$5,800
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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Memory cues and prior history

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Pilon said the Council had asked the Engineer to conduct a feasibility study to look at what the potential cost would be and what improvements were necessary.
— Mayor Pilon
What this is about
A prior Council request for an engineer feasibility study on the Ebony & Garnet Streets project.
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They have lived there since 1992 and have seen upwards of a dozen road repairs in that time span. Certain areas have been repaired repeatedly, and it is alarming to him to hear that the soil boring tests came back with an acceptable level of subgrade gravel, which would imply in turn that it has adequate drainage.
— Bill Casey
What this is about
Prior repeated repairs on the Ebony & Garnet Streets road segment since 1992.
p. 3
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Have there been any failures on 190th Ave that was part of the road project last year?
— Mark Palmer
What this is about
Prior repair work on 190th Ave and a correction near Dolomite after a culvert replacement.
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Pilon responded that in township days, the property owners were assessed 100% for road projects.
— Mayor Pilon
What this is about
Past township-era assessment practice for road projects.
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He witnessed the stumps that were buried in the roadway that the City had dug up in the Fall, causing sink holes.
— Todd Harbrick
What this is about
Stumps previously found in the Rogers Lake Area roadway during earlier City work in the fall.
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Erickson said he also witnessed sizeable stumps being pulled out of the roadway.
— Kevin Erickson
What this is about
Another resident recalled seeing stumps pulled from the Rogers Lake Area roadway before this hearing.
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