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Tuesday, June 26, 2018
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The Planning & Zoning Commission approved the agenda, recommended trail dedication for the Host subdivision concept, recommended that the Reed-Begin lot split meet current code, and continued work on a small wireless ordinance.
5 items as recorded in the packet and minutes.
A1Approve June 26, 2018 meeting agenda
The commission approved the meeting agenda for June 26, 2018.
Approved by voice vote.
A2Conceptual subdivision plan — Mark and Michelle Host
Conceptual subdivision plan for Mark and Michelle Host, with discussion of a flag lot and park/trail dedication along Burns Parkway.
The commission carried a recommendation for a 20-foot park/trail dedication for the three lots; staff said the item would come back later.
A3Concept subdivision plan — Mike Reed/Ried and Greg Begin
Concept subdivision plan for Mike Reed/Ried and Greg Begin at 18953 Jasper Street Northwest, described as a three-lot concept with discussion focused on lot size, width, and setbacks.
The commission carried a recommendation that the split meet current code, including 300-foot width, 2.5-acre lot size, and building setbacks.
A4Small wireless network ordinance discussion
Continued discussion of adopting an ordinance to regulate small wireless networks in public and commercial areas.
The commission discussed examples and asked staff to bring back a basic framework for further discussion at the next meeting.
A5Adjournment
A motion to adjourn was made at the end of the meeting.
The transcript ends after the motion to adjourn and does not capture a second or vote.
What this meeting did about specific topics, organized by issue rather than by document.
Host subdivision and Burns Parkway trail dedication
The commission reviewed Mark and Michelle Host's conceptual subdivision on Burns Parkway, including how new lots would use existing frontage rather than a new street or cul-de-sac. The main direction given was to recommend a 20-foot park/trail dedication for the three lots, with staff noting that the plan would return after surveying, wetland work, and other details were completed.
Agenda: A2. Motions: M2.
Reed-Begin Jasper Street lot split
The commission reviewed a concept to split land at 18953 Jasper Street Northwest in an older metes-and-bounds neighborhood. After discussing whether a smaller lot size should be allowed, the commission carried a recommendation that the proposal meet current code standards, including 300-foot width, 2.5 acres, and building setbacks.
Agenda: A3. Motions: M3.
Small wireless network ordinance
The commission discussed how Nowthen might regulate small wireless or 5G facilities, including possible height limits, concealment, use of light poles, different treatment for the city center and rural areas, and examples from other cities. No ordinance was adopted; the discussion was continued so staff could bring back a basic framework for the next meeting.
Agenda: A4.
Meeting administration
The commission approved the meeting agenda at the start of the meeting. At the end, a motion to adjourn was made, but the available transcript ends before a second or vote is recorded.
Agenda: A1, A5. Motions: M1, M4.
4 motions on the record. Split votes are highlighted.
M1motion to approve the agenda for tonight
moved by Commissioner older, seconded by Commissioner silver
Voice vote; the transcript records, "all in favor say aye."
M2we recommend that we go with that the three dots 20 feet for the parking Rick trail
seconded by commissioner low on paint
Voice vote; the transcript records, "all in favor of this motion say aye aye opposed motion carries."
M3it has to be 300 feet wide and it has to be 2.5 acres and you can split it up on your tunic or a lot meets our setbacks with buildings and meet the setbacks
seconded by Commissioner Schiller
Voice vote; the transcript records, "all in favor say aye" and "opposed motion carries."
M4motion to adjourn
The transcript ends after the motion to adjourn and does not capture a second or vote.
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F1
During the Host subdivision discussion, staff described the city's park dedication amount as $2,000 and the trail amount as $500, totaling $2,500.
fee · park dedication fee per lot
$2,000
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
F2
During the Host subdivision discussion, staff described the trail dedication amount as $500, in addition to the $2,000 park amount.
fee · trail dedication fee per lot
$500
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
F3
Staff described the combined park and trail dedication comparison amount as $2,500 per lot during the Host subdivision discussion.
fee · combined park and trail dedication fee per lot
$2,500
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
F4
Staff gave an example that $2,500 times three lots would equal $7,500 when discussing how land dedication value could be compared with cash dedication.
estimate · illustrative three-lot park/trail dedication total
$7,500
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
F5
Staff said land was believed to be between $5,000 and $6,000 an acre, while cautioning that the number came from recent sales and should not be quoted as official.
estimate · estimated land value per acre
$5,000
unknown
Council approval status: not yet on record.
F6
Staff said land was believed to be between $5,000 and $6,000 an acre, while cautioning that the number came from recent sales and should not be quoted as official.
estimate · estimated land value per acre
$6,000
unknown
Council approval status: not yet on record.
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we have been told in the past that that road was gonna go divert to the city eventually so we'll have that DEP contend with - as far as done to rebuild
What this is about
A commissioner recalled prior information that Burns Parkway might eventually become a city road, relevant to future road rebuilding and trail/right-of-way discussion for the Host subdivision.
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This whole development is put in before we had an ordinance correct
What this is about
The commission recalled that the surrounding Jasper Street neighborhood was created before the city had its current subdivision ordinance, relevant to whether the Reed-Begin lot could be smaller than current standards.
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I believe there's a house for sale down at the end of their one of those roads 189th maybe yeah it was in their house for sale down there Nicole there was one that was vacant for quite some time I think it still is it finally say finally okay I'm just it my concern is is that that is a 1.4 acre or whatever it was 1.3 acres and it was it was it took forever for it to sell
What this is about
A commissioner recalled a nearby small lot or house sale while discussing whether smaller lots create future hardship in the Reed-Begin neighborhood.
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it's really pretty much up to the city whether they want to you know plan and prepare for this which i think is what i heard from some of the city councilors that it would be a good idea to be ready for this installation even though it may or may not come to know them for quite some time
What this is about
Staff recalled that some city councilors had previously expressed interest in preparing for small wireless installations before they arrive in Nowthen.
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