M-1approve council member changes
all in favor
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Tuesday, June 19, 2018
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The Road and Bridge Committee amended prior minutes, heard Rhinestone Road complaints, debated quote/RCA authority for 2018 road repairs, and discussed revising the five-year road plan after higher Old Viking cost estimates.
9 items as recorded in the packet and minutes.
AI-1Approve or amend meeting agenda
The chair opened with approval or amendment of the meeting agenda.
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AI-2Approve May 15, 2018 minutes as amended
The committee discussed amendments to the May 15, 2018 minutes, including removal of a sentence about Gypsy Valley and clarification of the Rogers Lake timing.
minutes not available in this bundle; transcript contains a motion listed separately
AI-3Floor items: Rhinestone Road concerns
Residents spoke during floor items about Rhinestone Road conditions, including washboarding, drainage, culverts, gravel, and safety concerns.
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AI-4A2018 road repairs: RCA and quotes for Watercrest and 184th
The committee moved to road repairs for 2018, beginning with a request for an RCA for Watercrest and discussion of quotes and the five-year plan.
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AI-4B2018 road repairs: Basalt ditch cleaning at 20450
The committee discussed ditch cleaning on Basalt at 20450 because water was washing out the road.
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AI-4C2018 road repairs: Iguana and 270 culverts and drainage
The committee discussed culverts and drainage on Iguana and 270, including whether ditch drainage needed to be addressed before culvert work.
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AI-5Five-year road improvement plan
The committee discussed the five-year road improvement plan, including Old Viking estimates, whether to reserve more money for repairs, and whether the plan should be extended or revised.
minutes not available in this bundle; transcript contains a motion listed separately
AI-6County or state road funding question
The committee briefly asked whether the City was still receiving county or state money designated for roads.
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AI-7Adjournment
A motion to adjourn was started near the end of the transcript.
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What this meeting did about specific topics, organized by issue rather than by document.
May 15 road and bridge minutes
The committee discussed correcting the May 15, 2018 minutes so that Gypsy Valley was not described as a recommended addition but as a separate road-study line item, and so the Rogers Lake timing from the prior five-year plan was clearer. A motion was made to approve the amended minutes.
Agenda: AI-2. Motions: M-1. Speakers: chair, Dan, Joe.
Rhinestone Road condition complaints
Residents raised concerns about Rhinestone Road, describing washboarding, poor gravel, culvert and drainage problems, vehicles sliding off the road, and safety issues on a dead-end road. The committee discussed that Rhinestone was on the 2018 gravel schedule and could be considered for future reconstruction through the road plan, but no immediate decision was made in the transcript.
Agenda: AI-3. Speakers: resident speakers, chair, Joe, Dan.
Watercrest and 184th quote authority
The committee revisited a prior motion to have Joe get quotes for Watercrest and 184th, but Joe said he believed he needed City Council permission before contacting contractors. Council members and committee members discussed whether an RCA was needed merely to gather quotes or only to spend money, and Dan said he would submit an RCA for permission to get quotes while also looking into clarifying the policy.
Agenda: AI-4A. Speakers: chair, Joe, Dan.
Basalt ditch and Iguana culvert drainage repairs
The committee discussed ditch cleaning on Basalt at 20450, where water was washing out the road, and then turned to culverts on Iguana and 270. The discussion emphasized that drainage ditches may not be carrying water where needed, so ditch and runoff issues may need to be understood before culvert repairs proceed.
Agenda: AI-4B, AI-4C. Speakers: chair, Joe, Dan.
Five-year road improvement plan and Old Viking costs
The committee discussed revising the five-year road improvement plan after Old Viking estimates rose sharply, including a prior $540,000 overlay estimate, an updated $657,000 overlay estimate, more than $100,000 in added estimated cost, and a possible reclaim cost over $700,000. Members also discussed keeping more money available for repairs, incorporating nearby roads into projects when logical, and ensuring the plan remains a continuing agenda topic.
Agenda: AI-5. Motions: M-2. Speakers: chair, Dan, Joe, Bill, Mayor.
County and state road funding
Near the end of the meeting, a member asked whether the City was still receiving county or state money designated for roads. The response in the transcript was that 2019 numbers had not been heard yet, though members recalled that some money had been received before.
Agenda: AI-6. Speakers: committee members.
3 motions on the record. Split votes are highlighted.
M-1approve council member changes
all in favor
M-2always discuss and attend a five-year road improvement plan
all in favor aye
M-3make the motion to adjourn
Each figure links back to the document it came from. When the council voted on the amount, the motion is shown.
FF-1
The speaker said the Old Viking overlay estimate was over $100,000 higher than expected.
estimate · Old Viking
$100,000
outflow
Council approval status: not yet on record.
FF-2
The speaker said reclaiming Old Viking would put the project at over $700,000.
estimate · Old Viking
$700,000
outflow
Council approval status: not yet on record.
FF-3
The speaker said Shane's prior estimate for a two-inch Old Viking overlay was $540,000.
estimate · Old Viking
$540,000
outflow
Council approval status: not yet on record.
FF-4
The speaker said the updated estimate for the same Old Viking overlay was $657,000.
estimate · Old Viking
$657,000
outflow
Council approval status: not yet on record.
When someone tried to remember earlier business, we cross-reference the corpus and write a short related-history note.
there's a separate line item or separate project from the road study from last year that included gypsy Valley two hundred thirteenth and I
What this is about
A member recalled that Gypsy Valley, 213th, and Basalt were a separate project from the prior year's road study, not a new recommendation to add Gypsy Valley.
The records show a partial match. In the materials for the June 9, 2026 City Council meeting, the Capital Improvement Plan included “Additional Road Improvement Project” entries for 2027, 2028, 2029, and 2030. Each described “additional patching or overlay on city streets” and listed Gypsy Valley Road and 213th Avenue among roads expected to be at or near the end of their service life by 2030. Each annual project showed a budget impact of $120,000, with the note that $120,000 per year was available through 2030 and $240,000 per year beginning in 2031. The search results do not show Basalt in that same list, and they do not include a formal vote or a record clearly identifying these roads as a separate project from a prior-year road study. So the available records support that Gypsy Valley and 213th were already included in the CIP road-improvement planning, but they do not fully confirm the recalled “separate line item” or the inclusion of Basalt.
just as a continuation from last year's five year road improvement plans
What this is about
A member recalled the prior five-year road improvement plan's phasing for Rogers Lake and Garnett in 2021 and 2022.
The records I searched do not contain a prior decision or discussion matching this recollection about last year’s five-year road improvement plan, including phasing for Rogers Lake and Garnett in 2021 and 2022.
in all the years not I don't recall rhinestone being in a gravel plan it's
— chair and Joe
What this is about
The chair asked whether Rhinestone had ever been in a gravel plan and Joe responded that it was in the 2018 plan.
The records searched show a related gravel-plan action, but they do not confirm the specific recollection that Rhinestone was included in a 2018 gravel plan. At the April 9, 2019 meeting, the Council approved Resolution 2019-30, the 2019 Dust Control & Gravel Plan. The resolution noted a 2019 dust-control budget of $45,000, that this would not cover all 25.5 miles of gravel roads at then-current prices, and that staff was compiling a 5-year Gravel Plan to present later. The search results provided do not include the 2018 gravel plan itself, and the 2019 resolution excerpt does not mention Rhinestone by name. So the records searched show prior Council action on gravel planning, but only a partial match to Joe’s statement.
when was the last time it was gravel five years ago five years ago
What this is about
The committee asked when Rhinestone was last graveled, and a speaker recalled it was five years earlier.
The records I searched do not contain a prior discussion or decision matching this recollection about when Rhinestone was last graveled. I did not find a recorded meeting item confirming that Rhinestone was graveled five years earlier.
from last month's meeting looking back on my notes
— chair
What this is about
The committee tried to reconstruct what had been decided at the previous month's meeting about Watercrest and quotes.
The records searched do not contain a prior decision matching the recollection about “Watercrest and quotes.” The closest matches are from the June 11, 2019 meeting packet, which notes that Administrator Derus briefly discussed skid-loader quotes, Mayor Pilon asked why there were no other quotes or options, and Council asked staff to obtain quotes on other machines. No formal vote is shown in that excerpt. The same June 11, 2019 packet also lists “Quote/Budget for Recycling Building Repair to Prevent Water Issues,” but it says that matter had already been discussed earlier in the regular meeting. The search results provided do not show the details of that earlier discussion or any recorded vote on Watercrest.
May 15 2008 teen road repairs for 2018 number 2 ABF and that's
What this is about
A member read from the May 15, 2018 minutes to recall the earlier motion about getting culvert quotes.
The records I searched do not contain the May 15, 2018 minutes or any prior decision matching the recollection about a motion to get culvert quotes. The search results returned unrelated later packet material, including 2024 committee/training items and 2026 police/public works packet pages, but nothing about 2018 road repairs, ABF, or culvert quotes. So, based on these results, I cannot confirm the date, motion language, vote, or any dollar amount for the culvert-quote item.
it was the attorney was
— Joe
What this is about
Joe recalled a January or February attorney discussion that he believed changed what permission he needed before spending money or arranging work.
The records I searched do not contain a January or February attorney discussion matching Joe’s recollection that his spending or work-arranging authority changed. The closest items are procedural or unrelated: at the March 10, 2026 meeting, the council approved the February 10, 2026 minutes as part of the consent agenda, but the search result does not show the substance of those February minutes; and the April 14, 2026 packet included a proposed resolution approving a prosecuting services agreement with Beck Law. The April 14, 2026 packet also includes road crack-sealing proposals, including a $117,000 proposal from Bertram Asphalt, but the search results do not show a prior attorney opinion or council vote changing what permission was required before spending money or arranging work.
you already go ahead ditch and iguana there what two
— Dan and Joe
What this is about
The committee recalled prior ditch work on Iguana and discussed whether the last work was two or three years earlier or when the development was first built.
The records I searched do not contain a prior decision or discussion matching the recollection of ditch work on Iguana Street, or whether that work occurred two or three years earlier or when the development was first built. The search results include unrelated references: at the June 9, 2026 meeting packet, Iguana Street appears in a Sheriff’s report about a trespassing incident, and “ditch” appears in Anoka County comments on the Viking Estates plat about restoring ditch sections along CSAH 22. Neither record documents city-authorized ditch work on Iguana or a prior vote on that work.
we the road and bridge committee approved to council our five-year plan in the it was either October or November
— Dan
What this is about
Members recalled when the prior five-year plan had been approved and how long the first project took to reach award.
The records I searched do not contain a prior October or November Road and Bridge Committee recommendation or Council approval of a five-year road plan matching this recollection. They also do not show the timing of the “first project” from plan approval to award. The only related item in the search results is in the May 12, 2026 packet, which includes a proposed 2026 Overlay Road Improvement Project with estimated total costs of $462,800, including proposed assessments and City costs. That document does not identify when a five-year plan was approved or when a first project was awarded.
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